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Paul Fickes's avatar

Great write up, especially the translation of the legalese. You seem to be coming at this from the direction of loss of freedom as the biggest concern. Most of the worries I see above are in regards to over-committing. The time I have spent working on a psychiatric unit and emergency department and now as a sort of expert witness for civil commitments in Oregon has made me feel like the commitment pendulum has swung too far. I have had countless conversations with families who bring in their young adult child who is manic or psychotic (or both) where I had to tell them that I completely agreed that their child desperately needs involuntary psychiatric care, but the law says they need to be imminently dangerous or will imminently deteriorate. While I love America and our freedoms as much as the rest, I think the most client-centric thing to do is to hold/commit people who clearly aren't thinking clearly. We have all read article after article on addressing the homeless crisis, but I never see the issue of too-narrow commitment criteria and the swing from institutionalization as as proposed cause and solution. Should we improve our inpatient psychiatric treatment centers? Certainly! Do I want commitment to go back to dropping your mother-in-law off on an asylum doorstep and they keep her for life? Of course not. But I do believe many currently homeless folks - I often see my past clients walking the streets - would benefit from more open commitment laws. I would love to hear others' thoughts.

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Nick Xu's avatar

Do they (a mysterious/ambiguous "they") give LAIs with shorter (eg 72-hour) holds? I think sometimes, people would benefit more from a LAI + 72-hour commitment than a LAI + longer commitment.

I guess when clearheaded, people with psychotic disorders can make an "advanced directive" outlining their wishes for involuntary commitment, and let the people they live with and/or interact regularly know these preferences.

Do they wish to be committed whenever they're in acute psychosis? Or only when there's evidence they've recently done something that jeopardizes their relationship/s and/or job?

Eg mine would include, "If I message anyone with paranoid accusations that my family members are harming me or have harmed me in the past, if I damage walls or other property, if I ever hide a knife, and so forth... please don't hesitate to make a call to get me committed."

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